Saturday, July 16, 2011

Refuting Catholic alibi to use graven images in worship to God



The decorations inside the Temple of Solomon

CATHOLIC EXPLANATION: 1 Kings 6:23 And within the oracle he made two cherubims of olive tree, each ten cubits high. 6:24 And five cubits was the one wing of the cherub, and five cubits the other wing of the cherub: from the uttermost part of the one wing unto the uttermost part of the other were ten cubits. 6:25 And the other cherub was ten cubits: both the cherubims were of one measure and one size. 6:26 The height of the one cherub was ten cubits, and so was it of the other cherub. 6:27 And he set the cherubims within the inner house: and they stretched forth the wings of the cherubims, so that the wing of the one touched the one wall, and the wing of the other cherub touched the other wall; and their wings touched one another in the midst of the house. 6:28 And he overlaid the cherubims with gold. 6:29 And he carved all the walls of the house round about with carved figures of cherubims and palm trees and open flowers, within and without.

1 Kings 7:25 It stood upon twelve oxen, three looking toward the north, and three looking toward the west, and three looking toward the south, and three looking toward the east: and the sea was set above upon them, and all their hinder parts were inward. 7:29 And on the borders that were between the ledges were lions, oxen, and cherubims: and upon the ledges there was a base above: and beneath the lions and oxen were certain additions made of thin work. 7:36 For on the plates of the ledges thereof, and on the borders thereof, he graved cherubims, lions, and palm trees, according to the proportion of every one, and additions round about.

plus this:  Exodus 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat. 25:19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof. 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.

MY REFUTATION: We should know that It was God who ordered this that this design should be made in 1 Kings Chapter 6 and 7 and It was not of King David's own idea.

1 Chronicles 28:12 And the pattern of all that he had by the spirit, of the courts of the house of the LORD, and of all the chambers round about, of the treasuries of the house of God, and of the treasuries of the dedicated things: 28:19 All this, said David, the LORD made me understand in writing by his hand upon me, even all the works of this pattern.

Catholic Defenders may ask, Why will God violate his own instruction not to make graven images if making of it is a violation to his commandment according to Exodus 20:4-5

First, What God dont want men to make graven images that they THEMSELVES WILL MAKE IMAGES. (read Deuteronomy 16:22) and not the images He ordered to make it.

Second, These images are made just for designs of the Ark or of the temple and not to be used to pray upon to (another way of worship) by children of Israel and offer some candles or flowers to them.

Last, Why will you require God to follow his commandment? Dont they know that the commandments are only for sinners to follow as taught by Apostle Paul:

1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine.

We should also notice that God never ask to make a graven images of the saints like Mother Mary.

If really the Catholic Church is really following this God's order, Catholic churches' altars should be the same as written in the Scriptures but sadly it is not. They just add on what is really written on the Scriptures that made the Catholic clergies liars.

Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. 


In desperation, Catholic Church will cite a verse that Christianity has an altar just to say that their idolatry is justified.

Hebrews 13:10 We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.

In the tabernacle made by hands, there was an altar where the high priest offers blood for himself and errors of the people in Hebrews 9:7, Hebrews 9:1-6.

The tabernacle of Christians is not MADE WITH HANDS in Hebrews 9:11 but the Catholic altar is MADE WITH HANDS.

Since the tabernacle made with hands has an altar, the same the tabernacle of Christians MADE NOT WITH HANDS has an altar.

That altar is in heaven because heaven is not made with mens' hands. (That's the Christian altar in Hebrews 13:10)

Revelation 14:17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

Revelation 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

Jesus Christ taught us on how to pray to the Father. We are taught to worship HIS NAME and not the image.

Matthew 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

There is no commandment by Jesus Christ or his apostles to make graven images as a way to remember God, instead these were taught to Christians:

2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. 

John 20:29 Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Do we need images to remember God? NO NEED!

The name of God is the one we Christians should worship as Jesus taught and not the graven image (read again on Matthew 6:9)

Idol worshippers/Idolaters in fact are commanded to be removed from the Christian Church (read 1 Corinthians 5:11-13)

Idols are with ears, eyes, mouth which cannot see, hear or speak and they do not have breath and those who trust them will be like them (not physically but spiritually) - Read Psalms 135:15-18

In the Bible, the thing that can make us remind of God is this: (HIS CREATIONS AND NOT THE GRAVEN IMAGES)

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

2 comments:

  1. Hahaha! Kaungasan mo eh...! nilalangaw blog mo eh...hahaha!. May mga verses sa bibliya na gumawa ng images ang mga alagad ng Dios na hindi ipinag-utos. Bakit hindi ito Kinondena ng Diyos..Aral pa po.

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  2. The problem yung mga images na yun eh hindi makikita sa mga simbahan at walang utos ng DIOS na luhuran at dasalan yun gaya ng ginagawa ninyo sa mga rebulto.

    mismong alibis ninyo sa rebulto eh hindi rin makikita sa mga simbahan.

    ang apologetics ninyo ay isang matinding katangahan lang at alibi.

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