The Woman in Labor in Revelation 12?

Who is the woman in Revelation 12? According to Catholic faith defenders, she is a literal woman and that is Mother Mary.

"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:"

It should not be Mother Mary because if you will see, the woman is trevailing in birth where the moon is at her feet. It never happened to Mother Mary that when she gave birth to the infant Jesus is she did it in Bethlehem at not in the moon under her feet. and it should never be that the WOMAN here is literal because it will never happen that she will be clothed with a SUN which is bigger to our world. How come Mary will be clothed with a sun bigger than our world?

Revelation 12:2 "And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

Here we see that it should never be Mary. It's because the real Mary did not give birth under the moon and put to the head of Mother Mary the literal 12 stars. It is impossible for this to happen. SO IT WILL NEVER BE MOTHER MARY. If this is not Mother Mary, Who is the woman in Revelation 12?

Who is the woman who'll give birth?

"Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD SHALL REDEEM thee from the hand of thine enemies." (Micah 4:10)

The daughter of Zion is the woman trevailing in birth. we must remember that the City of God was
cast out unto the uttermost part of the heaven. (read Nehemiah 1:9 KJV)

So St. John the Apostle saw in the heaven the meaning of it. the daughter of Zion was cast out unto the uttermost part of the heaven like trevailing like a woman with a child

"For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape." (1 Thessalonians 5:3)

Clothed with the sun in Revelation 12 means:

God's protection that defends the woman. "For the Lord God is a SUN and shield" (Psalms 84:11)

The crown of 12 stars means:

The stars are 12 brothers of Joseph the Dreamer who became the tribes of Israel (it is Genesis 37:9-10)

The moon under the feet means:

It symbolizes that it will be established like a moon in heaven where the woman is standing

"It shall be established for ever as the moon, and as a faithful witness in heaven. Selah." (Psalms 89:37)

December is a rainy or snowy time

An art depicting Baby Lord Jesus in the manger after Mother Mary gave birth to him

Now we'll discuss what time our Lord Jesus Christ was born. Is it true that he was born on the month of December? What are there on that month?

According to the report of Luke, when Lord Jesus was born, there are shepherds feeding their sheeps on that night in the field.

"And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. " (Luke 2:8)

According to the report, because on that night the sheeps are in the field where Mother Mary gave birth to an infant Jesus into a manger because there was no room for them in the inn. (Luke 2:6-7)

Here we see that in the time our Lord Jesus was born is SUMMER so in that time, Emperor Augustus Ceasar called for a census to all of his subjects in his empire. (Luke 2:1-3)

Now, why we can say that it is not in the month of December our Lord Jesus was born? because according to the report of the Bible, December is also the month of rainy season in Israel.

Then all the men of Judah and Benjamin gathered themselves together unto Jerusalem within three days. It was the ninth month, on the twentieth day of the month; and all the people sat in the street of the house of God, trembling because of this matter, and for the great rain. (Ezra 10:9)

"Now the king sat in the winterhouse in the ninth month: and there was a fire on the hearth burning before him." (Jeremiah 36:22)

"For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; " (Song's of solomon 2:11)

Notice that the 9th month in the Jewish calendar falls into the 9th month on the month of December and according to the report, this is the time of winter in Jerusalem. (Matthew 24:20)

"But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:"

So if it is true that there is someone flocking his sheeps in the field during that period is that man is really insane. No shepherd in his right mind will flock his sheeps in the field during the time of winter or rain.

And no ruler in his right mind especially an emperor of a vast and most powerful empire during that time will order a census during the time of winter. especially a wise brillant general before like Augustus.

So we can see that it is not on the month of December our Lord Jesus was born.

Job 37:6 For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth; likewise to the small rain, and to the great rain of his strength.

37:7 He sealeth up the hand of every man; that all men may know his work. 

37:8 Then the beasts go into dens, and remain in their places. 

37:9 Out of the south cometh the whirlwind: and COLD out of the north. 

10 By the breath of God frost is given: and the breadth of the waters is straitened. 

37:11 Also by watering he wearieth the thick cloud: he scattereth his bright cloud: 

37:12 And it is turned round about by his counsels: that they may do whatsoever he commandeth them upon the face of the world in the earth. 

37:13 He causeth it to come, whether for correction, or for his land, or for mercy.

"he went down and slew a lion in a pit in a snowy day. " (1 Cronicles 11:22)

Click the link below.

Pictures of a snowy Jerusalem:

http://www.israelimages.com/see_image_details.php?idi=1520

THE HURTFUL ADMISSION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ABOUT THIS TOPIC:

SNOW IN BETHLEHEM. CLICK THIS

Devotion to the Child Jesus or Sto Nino

The image of the child Jesus in the Philippines famously called the Sto. Nino

Now we'll discuss the devotion to the "STO NINO". When did it started? and why the Catholic Church has a type of worship to the image of a male child?This devotion came from the pagan worship if we'll see the picture of the "Sto Nino". It was originated from the god of the Hindus named "Krishna"

Look at it and click these links:

http://www.krisnaworld.com/gallery05.html

http://www.santoninodecebu.org

Here we'll see the comparison of the picture of "Sto Nino" to the god of the Hindus named "Krishna" in the form of a child. This is what the LORD said:

"And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.". (1 Samuel 8:7)

Because of their rejection of the LORD, this is the curse unto them:

"And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.

And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable. (Isaiah 3:4-5)

"Y les pondra NINOS por principes muchachos seran sus senores."(Isaiah 3:4 Sagrada escrituras 1969)

The children or "NINOS" became their princes and the babes will rule over them and the "CHILD" will behave himself proudly to them who made the land poor.

"Woe to thee ,O land ,when thy KING is a CHILD ,and thy princes eat in the morning. (Eclessiastes 10:16)

"Ay de ti,tierra ,cuando tu rey es NINO,y tus principes banqueten de marana. (Ecle. 10:16 Sagradas Escrituras 1569)

They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off. (Hosea 8:4)

This is what we can see in the Philippines where the king of the land is a child which they called "STO NINO" that is why the devotion is so intent among my Catholic countrymen to an "image of a male child". They have different celebrations to give honor to the "MALE CHILD or STO NINO". They have feasts for him like Sinulog of Cebu Province, Ati Atihan of Kalibo, Aklat Province or Dinagyang of Iloilo Province. They are doing this for the devotion to the "STO NINO"

Jesus Christ of the Bible never remained as a child. He grew up with wisdom even his physique. He never remained as Child Jesus:

    "And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature ;and in favour with God and man." (Luke 2:52)

The Nino or Child is not our Lord Jesus Christ. This is the image of the false god Krishna disguised as an image of the child Jesus bound with foolishness of a child in the hearts of many people.

"la necedad esta ligada al corazon del NINO ...".(Prov.22:15 la Nueva Biblia de los Hipanos 2005 lockman)

"Foolishness is bound in the heart of a CHILD..."

Many Catholics do not know that the male child or the Sto Nino they worship is not the Lord Jesus himself but the image of the Hindu god named Krishna. We cant trace this kind of worship during the time of the Apostles. No apostle worshipped a male child or Lord Jesus was called CHILD JESUS.

This worship to the CHILD JESUS is a clear pagan custom and worship of idols (read 1 Peter 4:3)

The funny thing in this devotion is that the devotees honor different children. There is a "Child doctor". There is a child dressed as a policeman. There is a Child or Nino dressed as Security Guard etc. So there are NINOS or children. (I mean Sto Nino)

Now is this the advice of Apostle Paul to the Christians?

"be not children or NINOS in understanding:." (1 Corinthians 14:20)

That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, (Ephesians 4:14)

But Blessed "He will be blessed who'll get and will cast your children or NINOS for the Big Rock.(Awit 139:9)

In that day a man SHALL CAST his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; (Isaiah 2:20)

Which is rightfully to be eliminated and destroy to these idols of children or NINOS.

"Matad pues ahora todos los varones entre los NINOS ;matad tambien toda mujer que haya conacido varon carnalmente." (Numbers 31:17 Reina Valera 1909)

"Matad a viejos ,jovenes doncellas NINOS y mujeres hasta el esterminio pero no toqueis a ninguno sobre quien este la seral comenzareis por mi santuario comenzaron ,pues con los ancianos que estaban delante del templo.(Ezek.9:6 La biblea de las Americas 1997 Lockman)

And who put in trust in this image will be put  into shame:

Habakkuk 2:18 What profiteth the graven image that the maker thereof hath graven it; the molten image, and a teacher of lies, that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols?

2:19 Woe unto him that saith to the wood, Awake; to the dumb stone, Arise, it shall teach! Behold, it is laid over with gold and silver, and there is no breath at all in the midst of it.

Peter the ROCK is not Biblical

 Picture depicting Saint Peter the Apostle

Peter the Rock, is it Biblical?

John 1:1 Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A STONE.

NOT ROCK!

Who is THIS ROCK which Jesus will build his Church?

Actually the term THIS in Matthew 16:18 refers to Christ.

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy THIS temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

The proof is that ROCK is Christ.

"And did all drink the same spiritual drink;for they drankof that spiritual ROCK that followed them:and that ROCK was CHRIST.(1 Cor. 10:4)

Only God like Jesus can be a ROCK and no other man!

"...You are my witnessses .Is there any God besides me ?No,there is no other ROCK; I know not one.(Isa.44:8 NIV)

"For who is God save the Lord ?or who is a ROCK save our God.(Psalms 18:31)

There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God. 1 Samuel 2:2

And Peter is not the foundation of the Church as Catholics believe today:

1 Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Peter is not the HEAD but Christ (read Colossians 1:18)

All Christians are Christ's body.

Ephesians 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

Our Lord is the head.

P.S. READ THIS WITH AN OPEN MIND CATHOLICS!

Change all your false beliefs if you dont want to join other faith.

if you try to harden your heart, this will happen to you. read Proverbs 28:14.

Refuting Catholic infant baptism and original sin doctrine

 

An infant is being baptized as shown in this picture

Infant baptism is unbiblical for the following reasons:

1) Baptism are for those who'll repent on their sins

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Infants from the start dont do any kind of trangressions.

2) Baptism are for people who has the capacity to believe in the Gospel

Acts 2:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?  2:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 2:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

Infants have no capacity to follow, to believe and understand anything and think well. It includes following and believing the Gospel as said in this verse:

Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

3) The kingdom of heaven is such for the little children

Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

In desperation, Catholic Defenders will use this defense:

Acts 16:14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.  

16:15 And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us.

So they conclude that in a household, there is an infant.

Oh really, have they seen the household of Lydia in personal to conclude that there is even a single infant in her household? They just interpreted this w/o any Bible verse support to be proven true their interpretation on the said verse.

besides, not all household of men have at least an infant living there, even if you try to survey in your own community where you are living and you'll find out that this is really true.

We should always remember of how our Lord Jesus was baptized is the same way his followers should be baptized.

Mark 10:39 And with the baptism wherewith I am baptized, you shall be baptized.

If our Lord Jesus Christ was baptized as an adult, the same his followers should be baptized as adults and not as an infant.

Do not believe on the priests' reasoning that babies should be baptised it is because they inherit an original sin.

This is unbiblical! read this Bible verse:

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 

In desperation, Catholics will use Psalms 51:5 "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me."

It was the mother who sinned and not the child. that is why he was shapen in iniquity and in sin his mother conceived him.

besides, Sin in the Bible is transgression of the law (read 1 John 3:4)

An unborn child cant do any sin because he has not heard yet the law and cant do anything.

Besides the original sin of man was that Adam prefer to listen to his wife than of God who said to him not to eat the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden mentioned in Genesis 3:17.

3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

Like I said, a child cant inherit the iniquities of his father (it's in Ezekiel 18:20)

Another proof that the iniquity of a man's parent will not be inherited by him is read this verse: (NOTICE IT WELL WHILE READING)

1 Kings 15:1 Now in the eighteenth year of king Jeroboam the son of Nebat reigned Abijam over Judah. 15:2 Three years reigned he in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Maachah, the daughter of Abishalom. 15:3 And he walked in all the sins of his father, which he had done before him: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father.15:8 And Abijam slept with his fathers; and they buried him in the city of David: and Asa his son reigned in his stead. 15:9 And in the twentieth year of Jeroboam king of Israel reigned Asa over Judah. 10 And forty and one years reigned he in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Maachah, the daughter of Abishalom. 11 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.

In fact, Lord Jesus taught the Christians to imitate the little children meaning they are sinless from the start.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

The original sin of man is that Adam preferred to hear his wife to eat the forbidden fruit than of God who ordered him not to eat it.

And in the Bible, The things that a child can inherit from his parents are house and riches (read Proverbs 19:14) and not the iniquities of their parents.

Refuting the so called Mary as Co Redemptrix

 This is the proof that it is true that this is a Catholic belief:

CLICK HERE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-Redemptrix

Here are my refutations:

1) According to the link above it says: "Co-Redemptrix, a title of Mary, mother of Jesus, refers to her role in the Redemption process."

In the Bible, Redemption belongs only to God:

Psalms 3:8 Salvation belongeth unto the LORD: thy blessing is upon thy people. Selah. 

2) In the Bible, no man can redeem a man

Psalms 49:1 Hear this, all ye people; give ear, all ye inhabitants of the world: 49:7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: 

3) The only Redeemer is God and not any man. Lord Jesus is also God (which can be read in 1 John 5:20) who is a Redeemer also (read 2 Peter 1:1 and Titus 2:13)

Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. 

4) Mary needs a Saviour too and it is not true that she has role for Redemption process 


Luke 1:46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.


5) There is no need to have a Co Redemptrix since God the Redeemer is strong (read Jeremiah 50:34)


This is the reason why Catholics pray to Mary, they even believe that she can deliver them from the devil's snares

"Virgin full of goodness, Mother of mercy, I entrust to you my body and soul, my thoughts and my actions in life and my death. O my Queen come to my aid and deliver me from the snares of the devil. Obtain for me the grace of loving my Lord Jesus Christ, your Son, with a true and perfect love, and after him, O Mary, of loving you with all my heart and above all things."

Source: Prayer Book 2000 Page 78

Author: Bro. Sherwin Labangco, SHMI and Bro. Saul Maquinto, SHMI

Nihil Obstat: Very Rev. Msgr. Jose C. Abriol

Vicar General and Censor

Manila May 19, 1999

Edition: 1st Edition, Manila, June 29, 2000 Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul

Printer: Don Bosco Press Makati City

In the Bible, no man can save you (read Deuteronomy 28:29) so praying to Mary to deliver you from the devil's snares will be in vain.

besides the Bible says this:

Psalms 60:11 Give us help from trouble: for vain is the help of man. 

What is the reason behind this?

Psalms 121:1 I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help. Psalms 121:2 My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth. 

SEE! It is because help comes from God and not from a man like Mary!

we should not ask a man to deliver you from evil. 

besides, Lord Jesus taught the Christians that when praying we should ask the Father to deliver us from evil (read Matthew 6:9, 13)

Refuting the so called Marian Assumption and Queenship

An art depicting Mary's coronation in heaven

Catholic faith defenders use this verse that there is a literal queen of heaven and it is not always a paganic belief:

Psalms 45:9 Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir.

 Have you noticed something in the verse? the queen has gold in Ophir. meaning the queen is still on earth and not in heaven. because Ophir is a trading place where gold can be purchased during the time of King Solomon.

Anyway, who is that queen anyway? she is Bathsheba, who is at the right hand of King Solomon (read 1 Kings 2:19)

So the king in Psalms 45 is King Solomon.

But Catholic Defenders insist that the king is the Messiah Lord Jesus because of Psalms 45:6-7 which can be read in Hebrews 1:8-9.

That's right, it is fulfilled to Lord Jesus Christ but we must remember that Psalms 45 is a song of sons of Korah to King Solomon.

There are some part of it where it is fulfilled to Lord Jesus and some to King Solomon.

The king in Psalms 45 cant be the Messiah since if you'll read Psalms 45:8 he has the "garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia,"

and in Psalms 45:9, the king has daughters who were among his honorable women.
Lord Jesus had no children or even wives when he came down on earth. So it is impossible that the king in Psalms 45 is totally the Messiah.

We should know that the reason why Mary is Queen of Heaven and Earth in Unholy Roman Catholic Church it is because she is considered as another God CLICK THIS TO SEE MY PROOF

This is a pure blasphemy. Mary cant be a God and Queen in heaven today because of the following reasons:


1) The Bible clearly said that no man cant foretell the destiny of a dead person:

Ecclesiastes 8:7 For he knoweth not that which shall be: for who can tell him when it shall be? 

Ecclesiastes 8:8 There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death:



So it is a lie to preach that Mary is in heaven today and a queen since the Bible says that no one can tell the destiny of a dead person.

2) Mary will never go immediately to the place where her Son Lord Jesus which is in heaven because her Son said that she needs to be resurrected first to obtain eternal life IN THE LAST DAY. she is one of those who saw and believed in Him.


John 6:40 Every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. 


3) Apostle Paul said that no one obtained the promise

Hebrews 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:  Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

What is that promise?

2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 


So any dead saints including Mary is not yet in heaven where God is there.

4) It is not even taught by any apostles of  Lord Jesus Christ. St. Paul the Apostle said about what to do on the people who taught other teachings aside from their teachings.

Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 


See! we must also reject their false teachings and not only themselves. we should accursed or reject them BOTH!

Now who taught this Assumption dogma? It is Pope Pius XII on November 1, 1950

SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assumption_of_Mary

This doctrine was dogmatically and infallibly defined by Pope Pius XII on November 1, 1950, in his Apostolic Constitution Munificentissimus Deus. This belief is known as the Dormition of the Theotokos by the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Churches. In the churches which observe it, the Assumption is a major feast day, commonly celebrated on August 15. In many countries it is a Catholic Holy Day of Obligation.

5) So Mary cant be a God too if I have proven here that it's impossible for her to be a Queen of Heaven and Earth. because of the reason that she is considered as another God CLICK HERE TO SEE THE PROOF

The Catholic teaching of particular judgment (MY REFUTATIONS)

 An art depicting the resurrection of the dead

We can read in a book named MY FIRST CATECHISM p.65 whose author is Fr. Paolo O. Pirlo, SHMI with Nihil Obstat of Very Rev. Msgr. Josephino S. Ramirez, Vicar General and Chancellor Manila October 28, 1993 the following:

"The particular judgment is immediately after our death. Then the souls of the just go to paradise, Those who still have some sins to be expiated go to purgatory. Those who are evil go to hell. As Jesus said in the parable of Lazarus: The poor man died and was carried away by the angels to the bosom of Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried, and was tormented in Hell (Luke 16:22-23)"

HERE ARE MY REFUTATIONS:

FIRST: In the parable, you cant read that a man went to purgatory. so using the parable that there is a chance for a man to go to purgatory after his death is clearly wrong.

SECOND: The parable teaches only that there is eternal life and eternal damnation. The Catholic Church's interpretation of the said verse is clearly wrong. why? it doen't mean that when a righteous and the wicked man both died will automatically go to afterlife as THEIR JUDGMENT.

In the Bible, Apostle Paul taught the the Judgment of the souls is only ONE DAY. (So it will not happen many times after death)

Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

It will happen at the end of the world when heaven and earth will pass way.


Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.


THIRD: The Bible clearly testified what will happen to the dead during this present time as written here:

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Then on the Judgment Day, God will unite them again.


Ezekiel 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: 37:6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

FOURTH: Lord Jesus, Apostle Peter and Apostle St. John said that no man hath seen God and ascended into the paradise where God is there. so the dead saints are just in the graves (read my third refutation)

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens:

1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time.

FIFTH: In order to come to Jesus where he is IF YOU ARE A RIGHTEOUS MAN, you need still to be resurrected

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

SIXTH: If the dead saints will go straight into the paradise where God is there, no need for them to wait for the coming of Lord Jesus Christ and prepare a place for them

John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

SEVENTH AND LAST: It is clear that all the dead saints and the wicked men before they receive their eternal life or eternal damnation is they need still to be resurrected.

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

ALL THE DEAD SAINTS ARE NOT YET IN HEAVEN, THEY NEED TO BE RESURRECTED BY LORD JESUS:

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.  

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

We must remember that God will change our earthly body into heavenly body first before reaching the Kingdom of God by means of resurrection so it is wrong to say that when a righteous man died and was buried, that man will go to heaven ASAP.

1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

1 Corinthians 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.  

1 Corinthians 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

The unrefutable fact that can be read in the Bible that the dead saints are not yet today with God in his paradise as the Catholic Church presently believes in it is read these verses:


Hebrews 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

The promise mentioned in those verses in Hebrews can be read here:


1 John 2:25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

This is where all the saints will live forever with the Lord after the Judgment Day and obtain eternal life:


Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

It is called new heaven because the former heaven which we see today is we cant see God there and He is not with us. so It is not true that the new heaven and the place where God is different.

In the new heaven in God's Kingdom, we will see God and live with us if you are one who'll be save.

The reasons why we should not pray the Rosary

 The Catholic rosary

REASON ONE: It was originated from the pagans.

Historical note: Roman Catholics borrowed the idea of praying with beads from the pagan religions who were already using them hundreds of years before: In 456 AD, Hindus are thought to have introduced the concept of praying with beads to the world. The earliest reference to a rosary (boberkhas) is in their "Jain Canon" (456 AD) These boberkhas had various numbers of beads 6,9,12,18,36 (any sub-multiple of 108) Islam (610 AD) uses a rosary of 99 beads, one for each of the names of God. Buddhists have 108 prayer beads on the string. The Rosary is of pagan origin and no Christian prior to 1000 AD used beads to pray.

The Bible teaches Christians not to do the pagans' way of life:

1 Peter 4:3 For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do—living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry. 4:4 They think it strange that you do not plunge with them into the same flood of dissipation, and they heap abuse on you. (NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION)

REASON TWO: Long prayers will let you receive greater damnation

Luke 20:47 Which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation. 

because God wanted us when communicating with him is read this verse:

Ecclesiastes 5:2 Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few.

REASON THREE: It was the Catholic saint Saint Dominic who introduced it

"He was the one who introduced the beautiful prayer of the Holy Rosary in honor of the Virgin Mary"

p. 176 of the book named MY FIRST BOOK OF SAINTS.

ISBN: 971-91595-4-5

Author: Fr. Paolo O. Pirlo, SHMI

Edition: 1st Edition, Manila, August 15, 1997 Assumption of Mary

Printer: Don Bosco Press Makati City, Philippines

Imprimatur: Very Rev. Msgr. Socrates B. Villegas Vicar General Manila April 10, 1997

Nihil Obstat: Very Rev. Msgr. Jose C. Abriol Vicar General and Censor Manila April 10, 1997

In the Bible, Christians are taught to accurse or reject the people who taught other gospel other than what was preached by the apostles. (Whats more on their false teachings right?)

Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Refuting so called Biblical proofs of purgatory

A Catholic art depicting non existing purgatory

What is purgatory in the Catholic Encyclopedia?

1. Catcholic Doctrine -Purgatory (Lat.purgare,to make clean ,to purify)"vol.12, p.575 "According to the teaching of the Church ,the state ,place,or condition in the next world ,which will continue until the last judgement, where the soul of those who die i the state of Grace ,but not yet free from all imperfection,make expiation for unforgiven venial sins or for temporal punishment due to venial and moral sins that have already been forgiven and ,by so doing are purified before they enter heaven."(New Catcholic Encyclopedia,vol.11,p.1034)

PROOF #1: Isaiah 6:5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts. 6:6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: 6:7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.

MY REFUTATION: Is this purgatory? Well read the verses above and it is not purgatory but a vision of heaven:

Isaiah 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. 6:2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. 6:3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. 6:4 And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.


PROOF#2: Zechariah 13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

The dead are not the ones mentioned in these verses but the believers. we must know that the dead cannot do any work on the grave where they will go (read Ecclesiastes 9:10)

To understand this verses, Pls. read 1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

PROOF#3: Matthew 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

MY REFUTATION: Are they (Catholic defenders) saying that you need to pay cash in order for a man's soul to be removed in purgatory? Does this mean that God can be bribed to save a man's soul? Is this true Biblically?

Deuteronomy 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Proverbs 6:34 For jealousy is the rage of a man: therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance. 6:35 He will not regard any ransom; neither will he rest content, though thou givest many gifts.

Why did our Lord Jesus Christ said this thing on the said verse?

Matthew 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

PROOF#4: 1 Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

MY REFUTATION: The fire mentioned in the verses above is not literal but spiritual. the fire symbolizes the test of faith

1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

And it is works and not dead believers will be put to that spiritual fire. HOW CAN A LITERAL FIRE BURN MENS' WORK?

and it is clear that the dead dont do any work (read Ecclesiastes 9:10)

so the works of the people mentioned in the verses of 1 Corinthians Chapter 3:12-15 are the works of the living and not of the dead.

That spiritual fire OR THE TEST OF FAITH will test those works whose people laid their foundation  gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble upon the foundation of Christians which is Christ.

The works are compared to gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble.


PROOF#5: 1 Peter 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

MY REFUTATION: The spirit of prisons mentioned in the Bible is not purgatory but a prison of rebelled angels who married the daughters of men in this world as mentioned in Genesis Chapter 6.

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.


It is clear that the spirit who makes live the human body will be in God's hand while the body will become dust (read Ecclesiastes 12:6)

Then it will be joined together by God with the bones as mentioned in Ezekiel 37:4-6 read it

Then Jesus Christ said that the dead who will be resurrected will either obtain eternal life or damnation each of them (read John 5:28-29)


CONCLUSION: There is no such thing as purgatory

1) Its word cannot be found in the Bible while you can find the words hell and heaven itself in the Bible.

2) It is clear that Apostle Paul taught that AFTER DEATH IS JUDGMENT (Hebrews 9:27 read it) so there is no detour for the souls of the dead.

3) Jesus Christ said that all dead souls will be resurrected and each of them will either have an eternal life or eternal damnation


John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

4) God taught us to clean ourselves from iniquities when we are still alive in this mortal and temporal world.

1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. (SO NO NEED FOR PURGATORY AFTER DEATH)

Isaiah 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

5) There is no purgatory until the last judgment. what the dead will wait is the Judgment Day

Hebrews 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

6) No man can tell what shall be after him after death.

Ecclesiastes 6:12 For who can tell a man what shall be after him under the sun? 

you don't even know if one of your dead loved ones you have been asking to a priest to set a mass to pray for him and also paid in it in order to be released from that so called purgatory was soon or later been released from that place and went to paradise. how can you sure that he is still today in that place? what if he really never went in that place and instead went to hell or heaven?

you are just wasting your money in it in a hope that your loved one will be released from that non existing place that you dont even know when it will happen or perhaps maybe he never really went to that place. believing in purgatory is also part mentioned in the Bible that setting your eyes upon that which is not (read Proverbs 23:5)

I believe purgatory was invented so that the Catholic Church assures to get a lot of money from its followers in order for the dioceses and archdioceses to obtain more profit from it.

7) Purgatory was invented by a certain "MARCION" during the Second Century A.D. and it was accepted as offical doctrine in year 593 A.D. by Pope Gregory I and it was adopted in the Council of Florence the Council of Florence (Mansi, t. XXXI, col. 1031),and on Council of Trent in year 1548.

But Apostle Paul taught the Christians not to accept the people who teach other gospel other than what was preached by the apostles and should be ACCURSED.

Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Meaning what we should believe are the teachings only of the apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ that can be read today in the Bible.

8) It is clear that the dead on the graves will not do any work . so cleansing themselves on their sins on a non existing purgatory is not true (read Ecclesiastes 9:10)

LAST: All men even the righteous sinned (read Ecclesiastes 7:20)

But if you have love which is the fulfillment of the law (read Romans 13:10)

you dont need purgatory it is because love covers all sins (read Proverbs 10:12)


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Refuting Catholic alibi to use graven images in worship to God

The decorations inside the Temple of Solomon

CATHOLIC EXPLANATION: 1 Kings 6:23 And within the oracle he made two cherubims of olive tree, each ten cubits high. 6:24 And five cubits was the one wing of the cherub, and five cubits the other wing of the cherub: from the uttermost part of the one wing unto the uttermost part of the other were ten cubits. 6:25 And the other cherub was ten cubits: both the cherubims were of one measure and one size. 6:26 The height of the one cherub was ten cubits, and so was it of the other cherub. 6:27 And he set the cherubims within the inner house: and they stretched forth the wings of the cherubims, so that the wing of the one touched the one wall, and the wing of the other cherub touched the other wall; and their wings touched one another in the midst of the house. 6:28 And he overlaid the cherubims with gold. 6:29 And he carved all the walls of the house round about with carved figures of cherubims and palm trees and open flowers, within and without.

1 Kings 7:25 It stood upon twelve oxen, three looking toward the north, and three looking toward the west, and three looking toward the south, and three looking toward the east: and the sea was set above upon them, and all their hinder parts were inward. 7:29 And on the borders that were between the ledges were lions, oxen, and cherubims: and upon the ledges there was a base above: and beneath the lions and oxen were certain additions made of thin work. 7:36 For on the plates of the ledges thereof, and on the borders thereof, he graved cherubims, lions, and palm trees, according to the proportion of every one, and additions round about.

plus this:  Exodus 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat. 25:19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof. 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.

MY REFUTATION: We should know that It was God who ordered this that this design should be made in 1 Kings Chapter 6 and 7 and It was not of King David's own idea.

1 Chronicles 28:12 And the pattern of all that he had by the spirit, of the courts of the house of the LORD, and of all the chambers round about, of the treasuries of the house of God, and of the treasuries of the dedicated things: 28:19 All this, said David, the LORD made me understand in writing by his hand upon me, even all the works of this pattern.

Catholic Defenders may ask, Why will God violate his own instruction not to make graven images if making of it is a violation to his commandment according to Exodus 20:4-5? 

First, What God dont want men to make graven images that they THEMSELVES WILL MAKE IMAGES. (read Deuteronomy 16:22) and not the images He ordered to make it.

Second, These images are made just for designs of the Ark or of the temple and not to be used to pray upon to (another way of worship) by children of Israel and offer some candles or flowers to them.

Last, Why will you require God to follow his commandment? Dont they know that the commandments are only for sinners to follow as taught by Apostle Paul:

1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine.

We should also notice that God never ask to make a graven images of the saints like Mother Mary.

If really the Catholic Church is really following this God's order, Catholic churches' altars should be the same as written in the Scriptures but sadly it is not. They just add on what is really written on the Scriptures that made the Catholic clergies liars.

Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. 

In desperation, Catholic Church will cite a verse that Christianity has an altar just to say that their idolatry is justified.

Hebrews 13:10 We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.

In the tabernacle made by hands, there was an altar where the high priest offers blood for himself and errors of the people in Hebrews 9:7, Hebrews 9:1-6.

The tabernacle of Christians is not MADE WITH HANDS in Hebrews 9:11 but the Catholic altar is MADE WITH HANDS.

Since the tabernacle made with hands has an altar, the same the tabernacle of Christians MADE NOT WITH HANDS has an altar.

That altar is in heaven because heaven is not made with mens' hands. (That's the Christian altar in Hebrews 13:10)

Revelation 14:17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

Revelation 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
Jesus Christ taught us on how to pray to the Father. We are taught to worship HIS NAME and not the image.

Matthew 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

There is no commandment by Jesus Christ or his apostles to make graven images as a way to remember God, instead these were taught to Christians:

2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. 

John 20:29 Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Do we need images to remember God? NO NEED!

The name of God is the one we Christians should worship as Jesus taught and not the graven image (read again on Matthew 6:9)

Idol worshippers/Idolaters in fact are commanded to be removed from the Christian Church (read 1 Corinthians 5:11-13)

Idols are with ears, eyes, mouth which cannot see, hear or speak and they do not have breath and those who trust them will be like them (not physically but spiritually) - Read Psalms 135:15-18

In the Bible, the thing that can make us remind of God is this: (HIS CREATIONS AND NOT THE GRAVEN IMAGES)

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Catholic Catechism teaches to worship graven images

 A picture of a Catholic church's altar

Catholic catechism requires that members should have for themselves idols or images to worship:

“13. Is the worship of the saints confined to their persons?

 No; it extends also their relics and images…

15. Ought we to worship holy images?

-- We should have, particularly in our churches, images of our lord, as also of the blessed Virgin and the saints, and we should pay them due honor and veneration.”

(Catechism of Christian doctrine, no. 3, p. 87)

 

[[ Pagbangon mo sa banig ay agad kang manikluhod sa harap ng isang Cruz o isang mahal na larawan. Kung maninikluhod ka sa tapat ng Altar ay magwika ka ng ganito "Sinasamba kita" (Catecismong tagalog p.82 ni Padre Luis de Amezquita) ]]

In English: When you wake up on a mat, you immediately kneel infront of a cross or to a beloved image. If you will kneel infront of the altar is say this: "I worship you.."

Eduard Syndicus, a Jesuit Priest says:

“Moreover, following other schoolmen, Thomas also showed in a wonderful section of his summa Theologica, his understanding of the irrational element in the cult image and its veneration: When one turns to an image, he says in so far as it is a thing—either a painting or a statue—it deserves the same reverence as Christ himself. ‘Since Christ is worshipped with humble veneration, it follows that his image, too, must be worshipped with (relatively) humble veneration’ ”

(Summa Theol. III, pu. 25, art. 3)(Early Christian Art, p.151)

[[ Kung ating SINASAMBA ang LARAWAN NI KRISTONG NAPAPAKO SA KRUS, dinadasalan natin: 'Sinasamba kita at pinupuri, Panginoon kong Jesu Cristo,...." (Siya Ang Inyong Pakinggan: Ang aral na Katoliko p. 12 ni P. Enrique Demond, S.V.D.) ]]

In English: If we worship the image of Christ nailed on the cross, we pray: "I worship and worship you Lord Jesus Christ..."

In the Bible, It was taught by Apostle Saint Paul that God should not be worshipped with men's hands like the images:

Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

Acts 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

In the original Greek, the term used in verse 25 is not really worship but SERVE. but are they synonymous?

FROM: http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/2323.htm

Original Word: θεραπεύω

Part of Speech: Verb

Transliteration: therapeuó

cure, heal, worship

From the same as therapon; to wait upon menially, i.e. (figuratively) to adore (God), or (specially) to relieve (of disease) -- cure, heal, worship.